It gets Curiouser and curiouser:
Lars Refn draws a young immigrant names "Muhammed" in a public school in Valby (part of Copenhagen). The text on the blackboard is in Persian and means (or so I'm told), "Jyllands-Posten's journalists are a bunch of reactionary provocateurs."
Lars Refn is also on the death-list, so apparently it is also "illegal" to draw people, who are named Muhammed - or maybe it's illegal to insult Jyllands-Posten?
"Muhammed's" shirt is imprinted with the word "Fremtiden", which means "the future". Brave New World!
Added:The word "fremtiden" is split after "Frem". "Frem" is also the name of the local soccer club in Valby - and the red and blue stripes on the young boy's shirt are the official colours of the club. I have no idea whether you can buy a "Frem-tiden" shirt on their home page.
Added: Two things: (1) In some versions of Lars Refn's cartoon, an English text has been superimposed on the drawing, "We think Lars Refn is a coward, who does not understand the seriousness of the Muslim threat to free speech.". I have seen two sites so far, where it has been claimed - without any proof - that this text was added by the editors of Jyllands-Posten, who had desired a more offending picture.
*sigh* Sometimes I feel like the guy in the circus parade, who walks behind the elephants with a little broom and pail, but here goes:
- According to several sources, Jyllands-Posten did not know the meaning of the words on the black board. Here is but one Danish resource the Journalist (Danish text, my translation):
Several people on the newspaper have a good laugh, when it turns out that Lars Refn has written on his cartoon in Arabic that »Jyllands-Posten's editors are a bunch of reactionary provocateurs«.
Apparently nobody has noticed this before publication.
- Flemming Rose (culture editor) has time after time stated the opposite: (Why I published those cartoons): "I wrote to members of the association of Danish cartoonists asking them "to draw Muhammad as you see him." We certainly did not ask them to make fun of the prophet."
- In the original publication the drawing didn't have such a text (see image to the right). The text has been added later.
- Why on earth would a Danish editor write to his Danish readers in English?
(2) Innocent as the drawing is, Lars Refn was in fact one of the first to receive death threats. Normally the Security Intelligence Service won't leak any details, but an article in Ingeniøren from back in October, when a 17-year old boy issued death threats against two of the cartoonists tells us that Lars Refn were among the two.
I must repeat the question I asked in the original post: Is it illegal to draw a person named Mohammed? Or is it illegal to call Jyllands-Posten's editors and journalists a bunch of reactionary provocateurs?
FUCK GOD,FUCK ANGELS,FUCK HEAVEN,FUCK RELIGION,FUCK ME,FUCK YOU,FUCK EVERY FUCKIN' CREATURE ON THIS PLANET,FUCK FUCK,FUCK FOOK.
THANX FOR ...........
PS Go Jesus!!
I would draw Mohammed in a compromising situation or position except that I have had my arms and legs blown off in a terrorist attack ...
By the grace of Allah Almighty, I am a Muslim. I dont wear veil or even chadar. Dress like normal women, working in a large organisation and enjoy as much rights as any other woman.
I offer prayers occassionally and I believe in religuous harmony. Never thought that I am a true muslim.
However, after seeing these cartoons and reading the comments, I feel a pain. A pain that makes me closer to my religion.
I dont believe in killing someome. But at least you people should do something to stop this maddness. What has done cannot be changed but why you are enhancing this rage by re-printing these cartoons???? When you know that some people are trying to exploit this issue then why r u people becoming a mean to support their campaign?
And then just look at the way you talk about religion, prophets and the holy books. I thought every religion - jews, christianity, hinduism, budhism taught love & respect. Now am thinking otherwise.
Are you serious? The drawing at the top of this page shows a young immigrant called Mohammed.
Are you saying that I'm "enhancing this rage" by showing a drawing of a boy - just because he's named Mohammed?
My first reason for publishing the 12 cartoons was to show how innocuous they are. Half of them - like the one above - don't even show the Prophet. Arne Sørensen has drawn himself and Bob Katzenelson has drawn Kåre Bluitgen.
Some of those that do show Mohammed are quite reverent and would thus be allowed according to many interpretations of Islam. Claus Seidel has drawn a humble prophet, Poul Erik Poulsen has combined Jesus' halo with the crescent moon and Franz Füchsel has a sensible Mohammed admonishing his warriors to moderation.
> SK When you know that some people are trying to exploit this issue
That's the second problem. If it wasn't for "some people", who have "internationalzed the issue", all 12 drawings would have been forgotten long ago, and nobody - including me - would have seen them.
As it is, a bunch of lying imams are spreading the three fake Mohammed cartoons, which they have produced themselves.
They have even shown them on BBC and al-Jazeera.
How can you know which cartoons are the fake ones produced by the imams? Unless I show you the genuine ones?
Eh? Why do "We all the women of Europe" condemn a drawing of a young school boy??
Do you condemn it because the black board says, "Jyllands-Posten's journalists are a bunch of reactionary provocateurs"?
Ah, yes, pick on the "evil" polytheists. When was the last time a polytheistic religion waged a holy war? In general, true polytheisms enable people to avoid this kind of idiocy. We have the humility to recognize that through absolutist dogmas, human ignorance can make a mockery of divinity and spiritual progess. Abrahamites in general have alot to answer for in how they have treated polytheistic religions. May the eternal gods open your eyes to the dangers of totalitarianism and mental slavery inherent in monotheism.
> "WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU ENVADE A COUNTRY RAPE ITS WOMEN "
You forgot to mention the giant spiders.
You have been fooled, you twit. Those rape photos were produced by al-Qaeda in order to let the people in Falluja allow al-Qaeda to establish theír own torture rooms.
I'll give you a quote from this page
"The supposed rape pictures were far more important, Rosen said. In a February article for The New York Times Magazine, Rosen quoted a Jordanian Islamist's testimony that the pictures helped to galvanize insurgent activity in Falluja. "In the beginning, [the Fallujans] had said to the insurgents, 'Go make jihad in your own country.' After the rape story, they said, 'OK, we want to start now, or tomorrow we will find our mothers or daughters or sisters raped.' This story exploded the resistance in Falluja. They called us for a meeting and said, 'You were right.'" Rosen told National Journal that the rape pictures resembled those now displayed on a Web site maintained by a radical U.S. Hispanic group, La Voz de Aztlan Communications Network. The men in those pictures have their faces concealed, they are wearing a hodgepodge of military clothing, and they do not carry any weapons or equipment worn by U.S. soldiers."
I was surprised!!! i asked how is that, he did not comment.
Well, I think muslims they know that there is something wrong in there so called religion,but it is there ego and the continuos brain washing from the muslim religious leaders.Well let us face it guys, You can not say that islam is a peace religion!! comon!!!! common!!! what a religion that allows killing!! what a religion that allows discrimination!!! Are you defending GOd!!!?? who told you that God needs a help? Hey comon , wat is the problem in here!!? are you muslims not able to have sex or wat!! do u want to go to heaven to have some sex in there!!
There is the heaven, It is not a PORNO house.Mohammed kucked a 9 years old lady!!!!!!! the profit fucked a NINE years old girl!!! the PROFIT fucked ....!!!!! phaedophile.
Now the real story:
The Holy Bible said, Beware my children, the Demon will come, he will come in a sheep's cloth but beware he is a Wolf inside, I came before and warned you.
and guess wat, he came!! he came claiming that he is from god, he made good things,he killed people to make his religion.wat a better way to dominate and have the people's trust from being apparently good and put the satan's instructions(code). The satan's code was put in this so called CORAN, Well try to read a part of coran, it is not bad, But if you read it all, and when you go to the evil coded parts, Thats it, psychology.
In the cinemas duing a film,Coca cola companies were paying the Cinemas to make the Cocacola bottle appear during the film for a millisecond,The subconcious mind was able to interpret that small millisecond and triger a desire inside the people to go and buy COcacola.Well the same thing Happens in here. it is enough for little words which in the coran to do the same thing in the humans mind.
I just want to tell muslims that go out of the bubble you are living in and please see the world from outside of it, and welcome to the reality.
I am out of time now, i have to go.
I will come later to c wat happens.
Peace on you.
So then I followed him and he went into a dance club- then he spilled his beer on a stripper and was told to leave. He was screaming something about infidels and then said he had to get home early anyway because he was going to go cruising in the morning to find a 9 year old for a date at the grade school.
So I shot him in the head five times and wrapped him in bacon. Then I threw him in the hog pen. Sounds like they are eating corn chips in there.
God became man so that we may become Gods and be saved by the victory of His grace on the Cross..
Allah is Satan.
God sent Allah to hell.
Muhammad is Satan's devil demon.
God sent Allah (the devil) to hell for all eternity.
Allah hates God and sent the demon Mohammed to Earth to bring as many souls to hell as possible.
Until the accursed Anti-Christ is to be known...
Attacking the Mid-East is also an idealohical war targeting all those with radical ill-will intentions...
Everyone including all you Muslims and so-called Christians should check them out and search inside your hearts with a better understanding,love and appreciation for the one-and-only-truth...
The Prophet of Lust Muhammad would make generals of anyone of his followers who had beautiful wives. He would place them on the front line of battle insuring them inevitable death. (Heard this story before read II Samuel Chapters 11-12)
The biggest lye in history is Islam and its evil liar prophet Muhammad.
The foundations of Islam were built upon lies.
The Prophet of Islam’s Muhammad was a Dirty, Despicable, Evil, Hate-Filled Coward…
Tell me if this isn’t true! I dare you to call me a liar if this isn’t true!
When you take a look at the amazing life and behaviour of Muhammad it reflects the real personality of that person. In the end any logical person can agree & deduce that Muhammad was nothing more than a Murderer Rapist Thief & Liar!
The Prophet Muhammad of Islam must be in the nastiest & most horrible part of hell right now, along with all his misinformed followers faithful to him & his Allah…
It’s pretty pathetic that intellectual Muslims out there don’t even realize that Islam is one complete sham… I feel sorry for all those fake & pathetic moderate Muslims. Especially those who like denying or covering-up the many flaws & half-truths associated with the stories in the Koran …
The Prophet Muhammad of Islam designated the title of being God’s prophet for himself by demanding full allegiance to him by way of the sword. Muhammad refused to notice & accept that Christ was chosen by God to closer bridge the gap with God and to save mankind from its failed original sinful state of transgression and help bring them back to the eternal loving Father.
The strangest thing to me about Islam is it’s followers and how blind and stupid they are… This has always been a mystery to me how can 1.5 billion practicing Muslims in the world don’t know anything or refuse to know the real filth of their so-called prophet Muhammad. And if they do know why are they defending Muhammad and Islam? Honestly though Islam is just the biggest lie and cover-up in the history of this world. If it weren’t for all the mullahs, sheiks, imams, etc, the lie of Islam’s weight would just crumble and fall.
Some smelly paedophile called Muhammed went up a mountian, changed some of the bible himself, then came back down threatening people with violence, or death by his packi sword.
Yes what a holy righteous man that child butchering, bullying paedophile was ahaha.
islam is the anti christ. The bible says there will be a religion that will copy it, and it will be the anti christ.
As used in this First Superseding Indictment, 'Jihad' is the Arabic word meaning 'holy war'. In this context, jihad refers to the use of violence, including paramilitary action against persons, governments deemed to be enemies of the fundamentalist version of Islam."
"As used in this Superseding Indictment, 'violent jihad' or 'jihad' include planning, preparing for, and engaging in, acts of physical violence, including murder, maiming, kidnapping, and hostage-taking." Tell me, what kind of person do you identify Muhammad as? He was a crooked, liar. His path was crooked and he lied to make himself such a great prophet., " The seal of the prophets." I'm confused? What harmony are you talking about? The entire history of Islam's conquest and rule was the use of violence and terror. Do you understand the point that I'm trying to make? Look at history. There can never be a denial of history. Just go and look it up. I'm tired of writing this. Try www.thereligionofpeace.com
Some moderate muslims who have'nt studied or read the koran entirely may reject its ideas but many muslims who accept the principle koranic beliefs, believe their duty in serving God is to bring about the destruction of the decadent west, as they see it, to achieve this goal of a new Islamic world order ultimately for the cause of Allah. Either through violence or demographics. Time will tell. This is occurring at the present in Europe. The eventual Islamization of Europe and the consequent overthrow of the continent itself.
Before you can blame their hostility on materialist reasons such as the Israeli occupation, poverty or through remembrance of western Imperialism. This has more to do with their spiritual need. This is the reality, Muslims will keep dieing for Islam until they submit everybody.
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